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Dr. S. Ivory's avatar

Walking middle finger. Brilliant. Really enjoyed this one. Also I have enxountered so much straw man reaction. I sent a news piece from an India based, very right online source to various folks. It was,reporting the rioting in Paris, the first report of this I had encountered. I'd seen lots of Ireland and the UK, even Brampton, but this was new. Didn't pay too much attention to the bias of the language...BIG mistake! I should have asked, have you seen anyrhing else,about this? Instead I got accused of being an irresponsible ,racist extremist because the speaker referred to the groups of rioters as being from North Africa and migrants, coming into France by boatloads, and into the UK too. I was actually looking for confirmation of the facts. Since, I've seen other mainstream (Lib media) pieces that omit identification of group members. So again, I will have to couch everything I say in motives, contexts and specifics, or be automatically relegated to the horde of deplorables, whether or not what I say is True, or is simply a questiioning. Either I have to go to too much trouble or just,shut up.

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I'm paraphrasing, but someone on a podcast I listened to recently said that if people have arrived at an incorrect view/conclusion via reason and evidence, one might be able to change their mind using reason and different evidence. If they are operating from emotion, like many of our TDS-afflicted friends and family, there is no way to change their minds. These folks have no epistemic humility because they don't arrive at knowledge in a rational way so there can be no meeting of the minds. We're not even on the same playing field as these folks and I'm convinced that only a wallop of reality *might* knock them back to reality. I say might because we've seen them rationalize the most absurd things in light of solid evidence right in front of their faces. I just don't bother anymore and avoid the nastiest of them.

Great article and I love the Jungian focus!

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